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<title>Scholarship and Libraries in Transition</title>
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<modified>2006-03-31T16:14:37Z</modified>
<tagline>a blog about the impacts of mass digitization projects</tagline>
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<title>Final Post</title>
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<modified>2006-03-31T16:14:37Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-31T15:46:46Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2813</id>
<created>2006-03-31T15:46:46Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">Thanks to all for participating in the Scholarship and Libraries in Transition Symposium blog. Comments are now closed....</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
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<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for participating in the Scholarship and Libraries in Transition Symposium blog. Comments are now closed. </p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>General Conference Feedback</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T17:40:40Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T17:32:43Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2341</id>
<created>2006-03-11T17:32:43Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">We are interested in keeping the lines of communication open beyond the symposium. Please feel free to continue commenting in the specific discussion threads. Thanks to everyone for a successful symposium! This thread is open for general conference feedback....</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>We are interested in keeping the lines of communication open beyond the symposium. Please feel free to continue commenting in the specific discussion threads. Thanks to everyone for a successful symposium!</p>

<p>This thread is open for general conference feedback.</p>]]>

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<title>Discussion Thread for Clifford Lynch</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T17:00:33Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T16:59:54Z</issued>
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<created>2006-03-11T16:59:54Z</created>
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<name>kimballs</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<title>Discussion Thread for Public Policy Panel</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T16:14:05Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T15:41:30Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2339</id>
<created>2006-03-11T15:41:30Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">Please comment here on presentations by Bruce James, Brian Kahin, and James Hilton....</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Please comment here on presentations by Bruce James, Brian Kahin, and James Hilton.</p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>More Conference Blogs</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T15:27:41Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T15:25:54Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2338</id>
<created>2006-03-11T15:25:54Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">http://jenica26.squarespace.com/mermaid/ http://blogs.opml.org/vacuum/ http://williamtozier.com/slurry/...</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p><a href="http://jenica26.squarespace.com/mermaid/">http://jenica26.squarespace.com/mermaid/</a></p>

<p><a href="http://blogs.opml.org/vacuum/">http://blogs.opml.org/vacuum/</a></p>

<p><a href="http://williamtozier.com/slurry/">http://williamtozier.com/slurry/</a></p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>A Place to Buy (or Browse)  Accelerando</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T14:50:00Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T14:46:16Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2336</id>
<created>2006-03-11T14:46:16Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">If you have a few minutes after the symposium you should wander down to Karl Pohrt&apos;s store, Shaman Drum. Turn right out of Rackham, walk down to State, turn left and walk about a block and half -- the bricks,...</summary>
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<name>mbonn</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>mbonn@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>If you have a few minutes after the symposium you should wander down to Karl Pohrt's store, Shaman Drum.  Turn right out of Rackham, walk down to State, turn left and walk about a block and half -- the bricks, mortar and print will provide an interesting counterpoint to the electronic aura of the past day and a half.</p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>Places for Conference Feedback</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T14:34:55Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T14:31:43Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2335</id>
<created>2006-03-11T14:31:43Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">We welcome your feedback on the conference as whole. We&apos;ll keep the blog up and linked from the symposium web site if you&apos;d like to use this forum. We&apos;ll create a thread for general feedback. For those who don&apos;t want...</summary>
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<name>mbonn</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>mbonn@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>We welcome your feedback on the conference as whole.  We'll keep the blog up and linked from the symposium web site if you'd like to use this forum. We'll create a thread for general feedback. For those who don't want to bother with the registration process or who would prefer a less public venue, please send email to the conference information address: sltsymposium@umich.edu. </p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>The Afterlife of the Conference</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T14:26:35Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T14:19:58Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2333</id>
<created>2006-03-11T14:19:58Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">There have been several questions about whether the webcast and/or presentations will be available after the symposium. There will be few routes to follow up on the conference. Sometime next week the webcast will be available from the symposium web...</summary>
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<name>mbonn</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>mbonn@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>There have been several questions about whether the webcast and/or presentations will be available after the symposium.  There will be few routes to follow up on the conference.  Sometime next week the webcast will be available from <a href="http://www.lib.umich.edu/mdp/symposium/">the symposium web site.</a>  Those powerpoint presentations that we can acquire (this may not be possible with all of them) will the available from the web site and will also be stored in <a href="http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu">Deep Blue</a>, UM's institutional repository Finally, the June issue of <a href="http://www.journalofelectronicpublishing.org">The Journal of Electronic Publishing </a>will provide summary and commentary on the symposium.</p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>Discussion Thread for Economics Panel</title>
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<modified>2006-03-11T13:43:16Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-11T13:39:19Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2332</id>
<created>2006-03-11T13:39:19Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">Please comment here on the presentations by Paul Courant, Karl Pohrt, and Hal Varian....</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Please comment here on the presentations by Paul Courant, Karl Pohrt, and Hal Varian.</p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>Wrapping Up</title>
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<modified>2006-03-10T23:26:06Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-10T22:45:01Z</issued>
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<created>2006-03-10T22:45:01Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">Many thanks to all the symposium presenters, moderators, and organizers for such a productive series of discussions. Thanks also to the mblog authors and contributors. Keep the posts coming! Let&apos;s finish the day by sounding off on highlights, forecasts, and...</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to all the symposium presenters, moderators, and organizers for such a productive series of discussions. Thanks also to the mblog authors and contributors. Keep the posts coming!</p>

<p>Let's finish the day by sounding off on highlights, forecasts, and questions. What will/did you talk about at dinner tonight? What do you look forward to for tomorrow? </p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>You Decide</title>
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<modified>2006-03-10T22:08:56Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-10T22:03:58Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2313</id>
<created>2006-03-10T22:03:58Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">Is Dan Greenstein a publisher or isn&apos;t he? Does it matter? What constitutes a publisher these days?...</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
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<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Is Dan Greenstein a publisher or isn't he?  Does it matter? What constitutes a publisher these days?</p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>mass digitization and the steamroller of technology</title>
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<modified>2006-03-12T14:58:10Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-10T21:32:51Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2312</id>
<created>2006-03-10T21:32:51Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">There is a school of thinking that technology is an autonomous, unstoppable force -- a steamroller that steady moves along and crushes things in its way -- and an irresistible temptation for those who implement it. Frankenstein could not resist...</summary>
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<name>kshawkin</name>
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<email>kshawkin@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>There is a school of thinking that technology is an autonomous, unstoppable force -- a steamroller that steady moves along and crushes things in its way -- and an irresistible temptation for those who implement it. Frankenstein could not resist the opportunity to create his monster, Oppenheimer (and his colleagues) could not resist the opportunity to create the atomic bomb even though at the time it was thought that an atomic reaction might ignite the earth's entire atmosphere, and Truman could not resist the opportunity to use it even though it was not needed for victory over Japan. If Oppenheimer or Truman hadn't done what they did -- one might argue -- someone else would have, and perhaps that person have been working "for the other side".</p>

<p>But these discussions inevitably turn to fears of the unintended consequences of technology and how to avoid these. In the cloning (and human cloning) debate, while some jurisdictions have taken to instituting bans of the practice, others argue that the development of this technique is inevitable whether it's outlawed or not. Likewise, one might say that guns or drugs will inevitably be part of society, so the "Dutch model" for drugs -- of treating them as a public health rather than criminal issue -- will work the best in the long run. You need to steer a technology's development rather than attempt to fully control. The steamroller can't be stopped, but you can move things out of its ways or even change its direction slightly.</p>

<p>What if we think of mass digitization as autonomous technology? What unintended consequences might it have? While the speakers and audience members have been quite supportive of new paradigms in information services, scholarly communication, and intellectual property, what fears do other librarians and users have about Google's partnership with libraries?</p>

<p>There is a whole literature in the library community discussing the "Google effect" (and Amazon.com effect) upon today's users and their expectations. But let's think ahead to what might happen in five years, when Google possesses digital copies of a significant portion of scholarly literature, plus trade publications (all under Google Book Search). While U-M, for example, will provide access to its own copy of the content digitized by Google, it seems doubtful that it will ever have the visibility of Google's larger collection. Once Google accumulates such a large collection, it will have incredible market -- and legal -- leverage. If finding books and then buying them becomes even easier (as with the <a href="http://mblog.lib.umich.edu/sltsymposium/archives/2006/03/google_books_on.html">latest announcement from Google Book Search</a> ), there's less reason to have a browseable library -- even a virtual one -- available. Once Google fends off the current copyright lawsuit and continues with the "take it or leave it approach" in its contracts with publishers (as Alicia Wise mentioned), it might push for changes in law to give it more control over its content -- much like the roles other large companies are playing in the proposed WIPO Treaty for the Protection of the Rights of Broadcasting, Cablecasting and Webcasting Organizations.</p>

<p><a href="http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2005/09/google-revisited.html">William Patry wrote on his blog</a>, "So in the Google project, why should we care if there are server copies? [. . .] It in no way harms copyright owners unless the project becomes something else, namely a full-text service which then is a market substitute." Google tells us they all want to make information available for all, but they're a for-profit corporation accountable to shareholders. Won't asserting rights over their content become an irresistible temptation, and won't the scale of Google's collection give it a bigger advantage over libraries than even Amazon.com and Google have over libraries right now?</p>

<p>Can we move things out of the way of the steamroller of mass digitization, or alter its course slightly, to prevent oligopolic interests from gaining control of information? The Open Access movement has been trying to reassert control over content from oligopolic publishers, but should people with sympathies similar to the OA people give another corporation such leverage? We can say that we've retained the right to our content, but will it matter?</p>

<p>Alicia Wise mentioned these concerns more amicably and with less philosophical background. I began composing this before she spoke, and am referring to a course on technological change I once took and to discussions with library colleagues.</p>]]>

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<title>Discussion Thread for Publishing Panel</title>
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<modified>2006-03-10T21:22:21Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-10T21:20:18Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2311</id>
<created>2006-03-10T21:20:18Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">Please share your feedback on this panel....</summary>
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<name>kimballs</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>kimballs@umich.edu</email>
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<entry>
<title>The Text Creation Partnership</title>
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<modified>2006-03-10T21:09:53Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-10T21:07:05Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2309</id>
<created>2006-03-10T21:07:05Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">For more on the TCP, see the TCP web site....</summary>
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<name>mbonn</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>mbonn@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>For more on the TCP, see <a href="http://www.lib.umich.edu/tcp/"> the TCP web site</a>.</p>]]>

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<entry>
<title>Google Books on the Move</title>
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<modified>2006-03-10T20:06:13Z</modified>
<issued>2006-03-10T20:02:58Z</issued>
<id>tag:mblog.lib.umich.edu,2006:/sltsymposium/2197.2308</id>
<created>2006-03-10T20:02:58Z</created>
<summary type="text/plain">Speaking of new economic models and Google . . . just today saw this announcement from Google to its publisher partners about enabling charging for access to online books through the book search: &quot;This new feature of the Google Books...</summary>
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<name>mbonn</name>
<url>web page</url>
<email>mbonn@umich.edu</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Speaking of new economic models and Google . . . just today saw this announcement from Google to its publisher partners about enabling charging for access to online books through the book search:</p>

<p>"This new feature of the Google Books Partner Program enables US <br />
and UK publishers to sell online access to their books, directly <br />
through Google Book Search. This is a completely optional program <br />
that offers you full control. Here are some of the key features:</p>

<p>- You choose which books you want to offer.<br />
- You experiment with the price.<br />
- The initial launch of this feature is limited to the US and UK. <br />
Other countries will be added over time.</p>

<p>We're still in the development stages. Publishers can enable this <br />
feature and set prices now, but Google Book Search users can't buy <br />
online access to titles just yet. </p>

<p>We'll be updating our Terms and Conditions for the Google Books <br />
Partner Program to reflect this new offering. Sometime in the next <br />
few weeks you'll be asked to review the amended Terms and <br />
Conditions form when you log in to your account."</p>]]>

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